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Questions & Answers » Tournament gaffs: awarded placers & bracket count » 1/27/2018 8:02 pm

kcastillo
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In a tournament set-up, I erroneously made two specifications.  The first was that I specified that 4 places were to be awarded when it should have been 6 places.  This mistake was not caught until the consolation semifinals.  I did not see any other work-around other than to manually write the 5th/6th place bout sheets and add the associated points to the team totals.  Was there any kind of work-around that I could have implemented?
The second mistake was that I miscounted one of the brackets.  All of the brackets had 16 or less wrestlers except for the 147 lb bracket, which had 17 wrestlers.  The tournament was started and then the mistake was seen when the brackets were printed and the 147 lb bracket was a 32-man.  We wanted to have a pigtail for the 147 bracket, so the pigtail bout sheet was manually written and the loser was dropped from the bracket.  However, the bracket stayed as a 32-man and consequently the cross-bracketing was different from a 16-man bracket.  Also, we were concerned that 2nd round winners would be awarded advancement team points for a 1st round bye, which would not have occurred with a 16-man (plus pigtail) bracket.  Was there anything that I could have done (after the tournament had started) that would have given a 16-man bracket for the 147 lb weight class?

Suggest enhancements » 5-match limit » 1/27/2018 7:18 pm

kcastillo
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On page 7 of the NFHS Case Manual, this situation is presented.  However, I read your responses to an earlier post (dated Jan 2017) which stated a work-around.  This is exactly what I did.  For each "tie" in the 3rd and 5th place matches, I counted the number of matches of each wrestler (omitting any byes or forfeits).  If one wrestler had less than 5 matches, then that wrestler was declared as the winner and the result was "5-match rule" which the program changed to read as "5-0 match rule".  If both wrestlers had 5 matches, then the result was left as a "tie".  However, both wrestlers were specified as 3rd place or 5th place winners, where both wrestlers are presumed to receive additional points.  According to the Case Manual, both wrestlers should be awarded 4th or 5th place, and receive no additional points.
     I can do the manual count to determine the winner by the 5-match rule and manually change the result.  However, the program should change the "tie" wrestlers to the lesser place in order to accommodate the correct awarding of team points.  For example, a tie for 3rd place should result in both wrestlers awarded 4th place.

Suggest enhancements » 5-match limit » 1/27/2018 6:29 pm

kcastillo
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On Page 7 of the 2017-18 NFHS Wrestling Case Manual, it states that '. . . if one wrestler had wrestled in four matches and the other wrestler in five matches, then the wrestler with four matches would be the winner by default."  It also states that if both wrestlers had wrestled in five matches, then both wrestlers would receive points for the lesser place and there would be no winner of the higher place.

Suggest enhancements » 5-match limit » 12/19/2017 7:20 pm

kcastillo
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When a wrestler (with 5 matches) is matched with a wrestler (with 4 matches), then the latter wrestler is the winner by default, since the first wrestler has reached the 5 match limit.  However, the program has the result as a tie.  Can the program determine the higher placer based on this situation?
Also, we had a tournament recently in which several 16-man brackets had pigtail matches. (1)  In the 113 bracket, wrestler A had 4 matches and wrestler B had 5 matches, so the result was a tie for 3rd between wrestler A and wrestler B.  Neither wrestler had a pigtail.  (2)  In the 126 bracket, wrestler A had 4 matches and wrestler B had 5 matches, and the program generated a match for the two wrestlers.  Neither wrestler had a pigtail.

Suggest enhancements » 5-match rule » 1/28/2017 9:29 pm

kcastillo
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Yes, your assumptions are correct.  I went back into the tournament and changed the "tie" to the winner based on the number of matches.  The result was changed to "skipped".  For those matches that had both wrestlers at the 5 match limit, I left the result as a "tie".  One more question:  Are the team totals updated to reflect the placings that I made manually?

Support equipment » WiFi routers help » 1/25/2017 10:10 am

kcastillo
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I would like to purchase a pre-configured router.  Please advise.  Thanks

Suggest enhancements » 5-match rule » 1/25/2017 10:07 am

kcastillo
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I think that the rule states that, if one wrestler has reached 5 matches wrestled, and his opponent has not, then the opponent will be awarded the higher place.  Is there a way to (a) print out the number of matches wrestled for each wrestler on the bracket when there is a tie for the placing; or (b) place the wrestler with the lesser matches as the higher placing when there is a tie due to the 5-match rule?

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